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title: "JUGL Meeting Overview March 2013"
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date: "2026-09-09T18:58:31+00:00"
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#  JUGL Meeting Overview March 2013

    Details    Written by: [Gary Barclay](https://www.joomlalondon.co.uk/organisers/gary-barclay)   Category: [Monthly Meetups](https://www.joomlalondon.co.uk/jugl-joomla-news/meetups)    Published: 12 January 2018    Last Updated: 12 January 2018  ![mask](https://www.joomlalondon.co.uk/images/easyblog/shared/mask.jpg)3rd JUGL evening of 2013! How quick they come!

We started off with a follow up to the security conversation from February. You may remember Joe and Phil had managed to modify a file that a hacker had put on one of their system. This basically emailed them with information from any activity that the hacker was doing...

...well Joe & Phil lay in wait for a while and luckily...he returned...Phil showed us the processes and activities, which they received via email, the hacker used to try and get back in. They're anything if not persistent!

As Phil said, a lot of fun...much of which didn't make sense to me but for once, the feeling of having control over the hacker, even after the effect, was a very nice indeed.

Jumped from that to Joomla 3.1 beta.

Biggest feature we see first is the tags...interesting use and at first glance a little disappointing in its implementation...you have to create your tags separately before adding them to articles but as you dig deeper it becomes clear why that is...

Firstly you can nest these tags which allows for complex filtering. Secondly tags work across all items in joomla...

The implementation looks clunky but as you work with it it becomes clear it will be a hugely powerful feature going forward.

As we were duscussing the virtues of tagging, the point about tags not impacting the URL came up, I selfishly raised my issue with joomla rules/item aliases/menu item aliases.

What followed was a demo of the issue followed by a new suggestion for how to create the same menu structure, and keep the urls consistent across Joomla and Zoo content.

I think we might have cracked this pesky issue. Interesting that I've always used additional, hidden menus to create urls for items but it seems the best option is to use the main menu and manipulate the display of the menu through menu modules. This gives a much more consistent url format...although never used to have this problem in Joomla 1.5.

A question was raised about whether Joomla 2.5 is useable for time being...with the answer of course being Yes... and for the forseeable feature.

Questions about Zoo shopping cart functionality revealed two current option:

- ZooDocs has a cart that is already released and in the worst tradition of Zoo components...very expensive...
- Another option is zoolanders who have a preview of their offering which also looks nice but is probably a couple of months away from proper use...

Question came in about how to change a couple of elements on a site. The changes were very simple but it soon became clear the way they were trying to make the changes would make it very difficult to track down. We showed several different ways of see CSS in Firefox and oth brows and showed several different ways of manipulating a joomla sites CSS using the traditional features of Firebug and Web Developer.

Another issue from the floor was about the Widgetkit gallery and a problem with the layout overlaying on the menu. The problem was a caused by the use of the caption to include a massive lump of the text in the caption. An interesting effect but one that impacted the normal style of the Polaroid gallery feature a little too much for the YooTheme template.

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